{"id":2252,"date":"2014-09-30T13:20:28","date_gmt":"2014-09-30T11:20:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/axfoundation.se\/?post_type=interview&#038;p=2252"},"modified":"2025-04-17T11:43:06","modified_gmt":"2025-04-17T09:43:06","slug":"holistic-solutions-fights-desertification","status":"publish","type":"interview","link":"https:\/\/www.axfoundation.se\/en\/interviews\/holistic-solutions-fights-desertification","title":{"rendered":"Holistic End to Desertification \u2013 Allan Savory"},"content":{"rendered":"<section data-id=\"block_5d8dbd4ebd765\" class=\"video   align col-lg-12 col-12\">\n    <div class=\"video__content  col-lg-12 col-12  \">\n            <div class=\"video__container\">\n        <iframe loading=\"lazy\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"auto\" height=\"auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/FxenbOr1MO8\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n      <\/div>\n        <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n\n<section data-id=\"block_5d8dbd32bd764\" class=\"text   align col-lg-12 col-12  \" >\n    <div class=\"text__content  col-lg-9 col-12   text__content--center \">\n            <div class=\"text__content\">\n                  <p>Allan Savory has for decades developed methods for preventing desertification\u2014one of the world&#8217;s major problems. When rainwater is no longer able to penetrate dry soil, it floats away on top of the soil or evaporates off quickly. The effect is that no plants can survive and\u00a0the desert spreads\u00a0ever more.<\/p>\n<p>Allan Savorys studies and hollistic methods demonstrates through practical examples that it is possible to prevent desertification and to restore natural growth. In this open-hearted interview, Allan Savory speaks about his methods and results but also of how people need to unite their powers and abilities to cope with the challenges that threaten humanity due to climate change.<\/p>\n<p>The interview was made during the foundations seminar Tipping Points in Stockholm, 2013.<\/p>\n\n              <\/div>\n  <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n\n<section data-id=\"block_5d6e2a8c1a3ae\" class=\"slider   align  \"  data-heading=\"Interviews\" >\n      <h2 class=\"slider__heading heading\">Interviews<\/h2>\n        <div class=\"slider__container\">\n\n              <div class=\"slider__controls\">\n          <button class=\"button slider__control slider__control--left\" aria-label=\"Scroll left\"><\/button>\n          <button class=\"button slider__control slider__control--right\" aria-label=\"Scroll right\"><\/button>\n        <\/div>\n      \n      <ul class=\"slider__tabs\">\n              <\/ul>\n\n              <ul class=\"slider__items\" 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