{"id":2182,"date":"2014-09-29T13:06:48","date_gmt":"2014-09-29T11:06:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/axfoundation.se\/?post_type=interview&#038;p=2182"},"modified":"2025-04-17T11:46:43","modified_gmt":"2025-04-17T09:46:43","slug":"if-monkeys-came-from-mars","status":"publish","type":"interview","link":"https:\/\/www.axfoundation.se\/en\/interviews\/if-monkeys-came-from-mars","title":{"rendered":"If Monkeys Came from Mars \u2013 Josep Call"},"content":{"rendered":"<section data-id=\"block_5d8dbff721a5f\" class=\"video   align col-lg-12 col-12\">\n    <div class=\"video__content  col-lg-12 col-12  \">\n            <div class=\"video__container\">\n        <iframe loading=\"lazy\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"auto\" height=\"auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/f7D0DWiKqMI\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n      <\/div>\n        <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n\n<section data-id=\"block_5d8dbfe421a5e\" class=\"text   align col-lg-12 col-12  \" >\n    <div class=\"text__content  col-lg-9 col-12   text__content--center \">\n            <div class=\"text__content\">\n                  <p>We humans can learn volumes about our species by studying one of our closest relatives\u2014the chimpanzee\u2014at least according to\u00a0one of the world&#8217;s leading researchers in the field, Dr. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eva.mpg.de\/psycho\/staff\/call\/index.htm\"> Josep Call <\/a> who researches\u00a0primate psychology at the prestigious <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eva.mpg.de\/s\/\"> Max Planck Institute<\/a>. Dr. Call offers perspectives on human development and he is astonished\u00a0of how we as a species can live together in communities. He tells of humans&#8217; unique characteristics, that our flexibility is absolutely unique.<\/p>\n<p>Meet an eminent scientist with deep insights into human evolution and our relationship to a\u00a0human ape. Dr. Call makes a vivid comparison: If we had found a monkey-like animal on Mars, how would we react? To say the least, it would be a worldwide sensation. But we do not have to travel so far&#8230;they are already here.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Josep Call was one of the key speakers at the foundations event<\/p>\n\n              <\/div>\n  <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n\n<section data-id=\"block_5d6e2a8c1a3ae\" class=\"slider   align  \"  data-heading=\"Interviews\" >\n      <h2 class=\"slider__heading heading\">Interviews<\/h2>\n        <div class=\"slider__container\">\n\n              <div class=\"slider__controls\">\n          <button class=\"button slider__control slider__control--left\" aria-label=\"Scroll left\"><\/button>\n          <button class=\"button slider__control slider__control--right\" aria-label=\"Scroll right\"><\/button>\n        <\/div>\n      \n      <ul class=\"slider__tabs\">\n              <\/ul>\n\n              <ul class=\"slider__items\" aria-hidden=\"false\" 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Montgomery\">\n    \n    <h4 class=\"spotlight__title \">\n      \n      Growing a revolution \u2013 David R. Montgomery\n\n    <\/h4>\n  <\/a>\n\n  \n  \n  \n<\/div>\n            <\/li>\n                      <li class=\"slider__item spotlight spotlight--small\">\n              <div class=\"spotlight__content  \">\n  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.axfoundation.se\/en\/interviews\/fast-information-and-our-future\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2019\/09\/angela-intervju-axfoundation-50x50.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2019\/09\/angela-intervju-axfoundation.jpg 516w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2019\/09\/angela-intervju-axfoundation-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2019\/09\/angela-intervju-axfoundation-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2019\/09\/angela-intervju-axfoundation-50x50.jpg 50w\" data-src=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2019\/09\/angela-intervju-axfoundation.jpg\" alt=\"Fast information and our future \u2013 Angela Oguntala\">\n    \n    <h4 class=\"spotlight__title \">\n      \n      Fast information and our future \u2013 Angela Oguntala\n\n    <\/h4>\n  <\/a>\n\n  \n  \n  \n<\/div>\n            <\/li>\n                      <li class=\"slider__item spotlight spotlight--small\">\n              <div class=\"spotlight__content  \">\n  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.axfoundation.se\/en\/interviews\/fake-news-battle\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2017\/11\/PAUL-50x50.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2017\/11\/PAUL.jpg 250w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2017\/11\/PAUL-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2017\/11\/PAUL-50x50.jpg 50w\" data-src=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2017\/11\/PAUL.jpg\" alt=\"Fake news Battle \u2013 Paul Rapacioli\">\n    \n    <h4 class=\"spotlight__title \">\n      \n      Fake news Battle \u2013 Paul Rapacioli\n\n    <\/h4>\n  <\/a>\n\n  \n  \n  \n<\/div>\n            <\/li>\n          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href=\"https:\/\/www.axfoundation.se\/en\/interviews\/matchmaker-of-diversity-and-boards-2\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cathy-DiverseCity-OnBoard_Fotor-50x50.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cathy-DiverseCity-OnBoard_Fotor-800x800.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cathy-DiverseCity-OnBoard_Fotor-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cathy-DiverseCity-OnBoard_Fotor-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cathy-DiverseCity-OnBoard_Fotor-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cathy-DiverseCity-OnBoard_Fotor-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cathy-DiverseCity-OnBoard_Fotor-50x50.jpg 50w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Cathy-DiverseCity-OnBoard_Fotor.jpg 1078w\" 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href=\"https:\/\/www.axfoundation.se\/en\/interviews\/citymart-shares-smart-cities-solutions\">\n          <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart-50x50.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart-800x800.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart-50x50.jpg 50w, https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart.jpg 1690w\" data-src=\"https:\/\/ax-images.b-cdn.net\/uploads\/2014\/08\/Citymart-800x800.jpg\" alt=\"Smart Cities Solutions \u2013 Sascha Haselmayer\">\n    \n    <h4 class=\"spotlight__title \">\n      \n      Smart Cities Solutions \u2013 Sascha 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